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Jeff Suchon's avatar

Thank you again Dr Hansen for climate truth.

In Spanish, a super duper el nino is a monstrous one called "El Ninon".

Mitchell J Rappaport's avatar

Or: “Adult behaving as an obnoxious child, mocking Americans with disabilities and others?” I like it; what do you think?

El Ninon? To “Trump or be Trumped”? With all the breakthroughs in Alzheimer’s Disease (Dementia) research occurring lately, however, perhaps the entire point is: “moot” anyways.

We must focus on only the facts, and the more that we know, the more that we need to realize that we still don’t clearly know and need to fully understand. There may not be any “fault” at all, just a lack of clarity.

Alas, at this level, there are consequences to each and every decision made. “For every force there is an equal and opposite force”. Sad but true…

Jeff Suchon's avatar

Mitchell,

I forgot to add I like what you do as an advocate for the disabled. We need more like you like we need more like Dr. Hansen.

Jeff Suchon's avatar

I got flack in 2017 when I wrote, "Every time I take a dump out comes a Trump".

Then, I polished a title for him as the Hannibal Lechter of the world:

"Sir Lance of the Lambs". As the lambs (humanity) are led to slaughter that global reticence, especially here in America is replaced by screams of terror.

He is also the classic el ninon. Adult brat. But again, adding an "n" to the climate el nino makes it a monster el nino in my Spanish knowledge.

Alejandro's avatar

I am Spanish and have never heard that word. I've searched for it and it exists, but has a different meaning, it refers to an adult behaving as a child: https://www.asale.org/damer/ni%C3%B1%C3%B3n

RAINER W GERBATSCH's avatar

Fits Trump - a 6 year old running the US into the ground.

Winston G Adams's avatar

Doesn't the historical meaning have from the 1600s have reference to the Christ Child, as the warning was welcomes for better fishing near time off Peru?

Jeff Suchon's avatar

Yes. The boy child Christ. El Nino appeared around Christmas time so the name.

Winston G Adams's avatar

Poor spelling , so repeat; Doesn't the historical meaning of El Nino etc come from references of Peru fisherman to the Christ Child, bearing gifts of better fishing near Christmas time off the coast of Peru?

Jeff Suchon's avatar

Soy gringo maracucho and when you add the "n" to words that end in "o" it intensifies the word. Take a lotta Spanish words and do that. Makes a monster of the subject. El ninon is a monster el nino.

Te lo juro.

Winston G Adams's avatar

Is it a bit humorous/or factual to say the Christ Child becomes the Orange Monster Child? And on the year of the 250th! And who was born opposite of Christmas time!

Jeff Suchon's avatar

No way Winston. El Nino is so named for the weather attribution at notably Christmas time.

Am a Christian. El nino is not Christ but a weather occurrence most noted around Christmas time 100s of years ago.

El Ninon is that weather phenomenon grown up into a monster.

Winston G Adams's avatar

My suggestion is that the neglect of the effects of fossil fuels on the climate is changing the strength of the more super El Nino, so not a beneficial one that existed for thousand of years, but now to be supercharged as to destructive power, and US government policy seems certain to push that more rapidly? Essentially fighting the laws of Nature, so our creator has limits on those natural laws, and many have tipping points? As a Christian, is that not evident and out of sync, just too much, with God's creation? Your thoughts?

Jeff Suchon's avatar

Winston the answer you can see is when Trump depicts himself as Christ and Maghgats worship him

Absolutely right we gotta curta8l fossils and things are so heated up we gotta reflect too

As Jahc Nemo says:

MAY THE LIGHT BE WITH YOU

Winston G Adams's avatar

Seeing Hansen's name as one of about 15 emails on my inbox, I immediately went to this one as priority.

Winston G Adams's avatar

Interesting, that about the same time yesterday that Hansen posted, there appeared an article in The Guardian of new research that says with high certainty that the AMOC will reduce by 60 %, (not 5 to 10%) in this century and seems on the road to collapse. It links the Science Advances publication of that research on April 15, 2026 (what is the odds of that on the same day)? This has huge impacts as to North American and Europe climates. And this drop in the ocean current now has high risk of happening this century (the AMOC already has reduced by about 15 %). Living in Nlfd Canada, this is of special interest to me, seeing the effects of polar ice melts, near here is IceBerg Alley (sinking the Titanic in 1912, and a danger to oil rig platforms), and has been routine sights most years to see the arctic ice flows(but now little arctic ice flows) but still seeing icebergs. The effects of the warm Gulf Stream on our and Europe's climate is immense, as too the Labrador Current.

Sarah Brennan's avatar

Thank you for this superb analysis. My Australian heart is with the coral reefs around the world. And those low-lying islands whose occupants have done NOTHING to deserve the inevitable outcome.

Brian's avatar

Thanks to all. The record keeping and the predictions are certainly the best tools for refining understanding. But this, of course, assumes that the system we are looking at is not dropping entirely into chaos.

chris searles, biointegrity's avatar

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Winston G Adams's avatar

I assume Hansen is very aware that the El Nino is also liked to he Atlantic AMOC current, but indirect through the Walker Circulation (atmospheric circulation and wind changes.......) and therefore seems connected to Arctic and Greenland ice melt. Like the leg bone is connected to the hip bone etc? Seems there are many related feedback systems.

RAINER W GERBATSCH's avatar

I wonder how the pacific water temperatures will play into the planetary safety boundaries (https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries.html). 7 of 9 of these boundaries have been transgressed. The ocean is part of the concept via ocean acidification - this boundary has been transgressed. It is not clear whether the transgressions are tipping points that can tip back or are irreversible

Alternative Lives R Available's avatar

Due to the closure of Hormuz, around 20% of world fossil oil production won’t be processed and shipped. But that includes around 30% of aviation fuel, that is already cancelling flights across Europe, and is likely to get much worse over the summer season.

Just as El Nino swings into action…..

Presumably clearer skies over Europe this summer, as we experienced during Covid, will increase southern European heatwave temperatures, perhaps beyond liveable for humans.

Any idea what might happen with this combination of El Nino and clear skies?

Jeff Suchon's avatar

We need a CCC number.. climate change care.. seems very low and goes high when people burn, starve, and drown. Problem is the only partakers are the ones immune to the ills the 3rd world suffers.

Theodore Rethers's avatar

What I find interesting about this discussions is that we are not focusing on the other side of the equation and that even a mild El Nino will have greater feedback into an already stressed system. From my understanding the land based ecosystems are already entering this period below optimal conditions with heat stress, high VPD and hydrological decline so although it does matter as to the strength, the impact will be greater no matter what the likely outcome. This is both a structural breakdown but is compounded by two combining cyclical swings.

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Jeff Suchon's avatar

And thank you for relentlessly committing all to helping a better future for mankind. You give a damn.